Illogical Atheism

51eu0w5it3L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA278_PIkin4,BottomRight,-48,22_AA300_SH20_OU02_While I have written posts in the past (see here, and here for two examples), it’s been a while since I wrote anything at all to do with atheism.  This is for two reasons … I’ve been busy and … it feels like repeatedly banging your head against a brick wall!

Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure that from the other side it feels the same way.  I’m sure people like Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss look at people like me and think trying to reason with me is like banging their heads against a brick wall.  I get it.  But from my angle it feels like they are blinded by the obvious.  They write and propagate nothing but propaganda and rhetoric (which is ironic for people who claim to advocate logic and reason!) and it amazes me that people can’t see it!

For example, take this debate between William Lane Craig and Christopher Hitchens:

Now, as I watch that, what I see is one man stating a reasonable, well argued case, with numerous  points that aren’t responded too, while giving good answers to questions posed to him.  While the other man, more or less, completely ignores what is said by the other and spends large periods of time spouting propaganda at how awful and evil the opposition are (which, technically speaking, has nothing whatsoever to so with the argument being debated).  This, without doubt, is what I see when I watch this.

However, the general consensus seems not to be that William Lane Craig ‘won’ the debate, but that ‘our side’ won, whichever side ‘our side’ happens to be.  In other words, if you’re an atheist, you watch and think Hitchens won and if you’re a theist, you watch it and thing Craig won!  I find this amazing, fascinating, mind-boggling.  How can this be?

Which leads me on to what I really want to say.  Because I’m interested in this area, I’ve read loads of books on it, from both sides.  I’ve read the atheist books and the Christian books.  I, as a Christian, find the atheist books to be full of anger and rage and the Christian books to be well argued and reasonable.  I guess this is no surprise.  But recently I read a fantastic book, I think possibly the best I’ve read in this debate … ‘Illogical Atheism” by Bo Jinn.

This book is very different from the others.  I guess this may be because the writer isn’t a Christian and isn’t religious.  He believes there probably is a God, but that’s as far as it goes.  And I guess it’s because of that, that, unlike most polite, reserved, Christians, he get’s straight into playing the New Atheists at their own game.  Maybe most thinking Christians (I acknowledge there are some unthinking Christians out there too!) would be too polite to write this book!  He doesn’t go on the defensive, but attacks the arguments and rhetoric of the New Atheists.  And, for me, the delight in finally seeing someone point out the nonsense that’s being spouted is wonderful.

So I write this blog, not to have another round of banging my head against a wall, but to say a huge thank you to Bo Jinn for writing this book.  While, no doubt, many Atheists will immediately throw their verbal grenades at you, and while, as a Christian, I do not actually believe the same things you do, I applaud you for writing this book.  I can only hope people read it.

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I'm the curate at St. Anne's Church, in the parish of Shevington, Standish Lower Ground and Crooke. I'm married to Carole and have two beautiful daughters called Sarah and Anabel
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3 Responses to Illogical Atheism

  1. Bō Jinn says:

    You are welcome Gerrard. I’m glad you enjoyed the book. If you could leave a short review on Amazon I would greatly appreciate it. I’m trying to make the printed version available for international purchase.

    • Jason McNaughton says:

      I read your book also I it was great. I also embraced empirical verificationism for a time and found many of the same things you discovered and was saying “Amen!” to almost every page! Thanks for writing such a well thought out response to the new atheists. 🙂

  2. Larry says:

    I am starting to read the book also and feel about it as you do.

    I could be wrong – but I think I read that Bo Jinn is a Christian. I thought I read that in one of his books.

    But , no matter, I think its a great book.

    I am coming to the conclusion that having a firm grip on reality requires the kind of humility
    that comes from faith.

    I think the basic ideas that are bandied about by New Atheists has been seen before – Germany in the 30’s and 40’s and in Stalin’s Russia, Mao’s China and in other places in this century.

    To get our philosophy right and to keep it politically and scientifically fruitful requires – if not Christian faith – which I think it does – at least a belief in an objective morality.

    As an American, I am familiar with the American founding statesmen. They all believed in objective morality. Also they believed that the American experiment in self government required religion –
    which in the context of the times was mostly Calvinism influenced Christianity.

    Judaism, Deism and Unitarianism of the times was compatible with that picture because they shared the same belief in objective morality.

    I try to explore some of these themes on my own webpage
    but I don’t have the apparent breadth of philosophy and education that Bo Jinn has.

    Perhaps he would do us a favor and take up the challenge of writing a book on that theme.

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